In this urgent and far-reaching conversation, Daniel speaks with poet-philosopher and activist Drew Dellinger about the convergence of spiritual emergency, ecological collapse, and rising authoritarianism. A student of Thomas Berry and Brian Swimme, Dellinger critiques the troubling ideological drift of RFK Jr., Charles Eisenstein, and others in the New Age and eco-spiritual world.

They explore: 🌌 The spiritual power of cosmology in an age of collapse ⚠️ The threat of Project 2025 & RFK Jr.'s alliance with Trump 🌀 Charles Eisenstein's rhetorical collapse & rightward turn 🤖 The role of AI, technocracy & surveillance in the New Age 🚫 False equivalence, epistemological nihilism, and the loss of discernment 🗣️ The danger of demobilizing narratives dressed up as "balance" 🎤 The poet's role in speaking truth to rising fascism 🕊️ A call for a united front for democracy, ecology, and justice 📝 The conversation ends with Drew's fiery original poem: "To the Quislings" — a stirring indictment of complicity in an age of creeping authoritarianism. 

 📚 About: Drew Dellinger is a poet, professor, and founder of Planetize the Movement. Known for integrating cosmology, activism, and justice into a prophetic philosophical framework.

📘 Love Letter to the Milky Way

🌐 https://www.drewdellinger.org

🔗 https://www.planetizethemovement.org

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